Posts by The Dragon

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Diane Wilson~~~ex-JW

by purplesofa in

published in psychology today~~~here is a small bit from the article.

http://www.dianewilson.net/disc.htm.

as desperate as i was to be convinced that the society would have no effect on my destiny, at some level i still believed it was god's channel and that my life hinged on obedience to it.

The Dragon

I would feel guilty selling it for money...it would alienate those who have little money like myself...and puts her motives and intentions into question imo.

I am just too wary perhaps....

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Does Goofy Speculation of Prophecy by the WTBS reason to leave?

by Mad in

many leave because of it- yet isn't the truth and the wtbs seperate entities?.

the mad jw.

The Dragon

That was a good point KW13 made!

Is there a punishment for making attempts at foretelling the future without permission to do so?

They have not been punished yet for it...it would seem.....

But excuse me...did not satan try to tell Eve what their future was going to hold if she ate from the tree? Was he not fortelling the future for her..by acting as if he had divine knowledge of God and could accurractly judge His response to hers?

Excuse me....but what is the difference between the what the serpent did and what the WTB is still doing?

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Helping those trapped in the WT!

by Vice in

i've been on this site for a bit and i find it very informative.

i've got a request and was wondering if anyone would be up for it.

for all of those that have questions you'd love to ask a current jw, would you go to www.answerbag.com and post your question in the jehovah's witness category.

The Dragon

Thank you for the link...I just joined the site..but have had a problem posting my question..it just says error on page.

I would like to help those trapped like a firemen running into a burning building....I could take what I have learned on here and go in as a new recruit and start asking some simple questions and expose their ignorance and lack of common sense to those who look to them for guidance and leadership......

Would that be right or wrong...or does it differ upon who you ask?

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Cicuit Overseer and District Overseer came looking for me today............

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

last week was the 2 day assembly.i didn't go to either one.

today,my mom called and told me the the c.o.

and d.o.came for a visit.i've been attending only once a week and no field service in about 4 years.

The Dragon

I hope one day we all can use what we learn on here and go out and hunt a good hunt on those who fancy themselves our predators....and we have so much success that they become scared and suspicious of all new recruits and even try to ban questions.

It will most likely become their undoing..................

We could be like lions protecting sheep and eating goats.....

Thats my defintion of paradise...but probably not theirs.

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Cicuit Overseer and District Overseer came looking for me today............

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

last week was the 2 day assembly.i didn't go to either one.

today,my mom called and told me the the c.o.

and d.o.came for a visit.i've been attending only once a week and no field service in about 4 years.

The Dragon

I cannot understand the fear of them and their guesses that the majority seem to possess...

Not trying to down anyone by saying that.....but my years on here sharing knowledge with you guys has paid off when these elders and such see me and remember some of the questions I used to ask them...the look of fear in their eyes in truly priceless...

I cannot think of anything they have that invokes any type of fear in me....I fancy myself a hunter not the hunted any longer...

I am just shocked that many of you duck and run from them and those who pull their strings guesses presented as facts or truth.

It is like I feel free of them and credit alot of that to this site and people...who are still hiding from them...and that has me concerned that perhaps I misunderstood or am too aggressive with my questions.....

Does that make sense?

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What do we think of TOMORROW'S WORLD...

by Sasha in

roderick meredith.

and while i'm at it what about dr. hank lindstrom????

?

The Dragon

it is still guesses......

and I have never heard of it.

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..If I went "Back to the Kingdom Hall"..

by OUTLAW in

if i went back to the kingdom hall there would be no windows..lol!

!..and..many doctrines,i could no longer preach.i would be reprimanded,reproved or disfellowshipped for it!..doctrines we were told to preach,straight from god,given to us by the wbt$ are no longer valid.the wbt$ says so.......i left in 1974.i couldn`t preach "armageddon by 1975"..most jehovah`s witness`s will tell you wbt$ never made that prediction.although wbt$ liturature says otherwise....."jehovah`s witness will be the only ones who survive armageddon".now,no one knows....."jehovah`s witness`s can`t take blood transfusions".now they can use blood factions....."religion has no place with worldly organizations".the wbt$ had an assosiation with the united nations-ngo..make a big deal about that and you "will" be disfellowshipped!.....

"the generation of 1914 will not pass away.

The Dragon

I have considered it...but I would have to go where nobody knew me..as the ones who do seem to be frightened of me....elders and all.

It would be fun to play dumb and ask them the kinds of questions I ask on here very innocently in front of a group of them...

Just to see how long they would keep up the loving charade...and beg me to leave...

Technically...I have never been DF'ed, babtised, or even DA'ed....I just faded with their blessing I am sure.....

Perhaps I should...as I cannot see how in the world they could ever convince me to follow their whacked out, self-exalted leaders guesses as truth again.

I can honestly say...I would be safe...their guessers would be the ones in peril...when my questions reached them for answers.

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Did it ever occur you were defiling your body too?

by NotaNess in

"no smoking".... it defiles your body and goes against scripture.. so as a witness, when pushing this train of thought, did it ever occur to anyone that when ever you dug in to those fried eggs, bacon cheeseburgers, and gallons of icecream, you were doing the same exact thing?.

smoking over a long period of time can kill you.

eating artery congesting foods over a long period of time can kill you.

The Dragon

Disfellowship fat people?

It would hurt attendance too much.

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I Need A Comeback Statement

by journey-on in

when i suggested to my jw sister that the wts has caused so much pain and division in our family, she told me it was because my brothers and i had made the choice to leave.

we were responsible for the division---not the society.

we are the ones that chose to leave the love and protective shelter of jehovah's organization and we are the ones that have the choice to return to the fold.. i need an intelligent comeback, preferably one that will plant a seed, not one too sarcastic.

The Dragon

How about....would really sacrifice our relationship and love for one another for a guy in suit and tie in New York who doesn't even know us cause his guess is that is the right thing to do?

Do you sacrifice family and friends for guesses presented as facts?

And they are not speaking to you from a burning bush..demanding your sacrifice.

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Is Satan useful to God?

by JH in

he's been keeping him around for a long time....i guess he must be useful in something, just like insects that must be useful someway..... .

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The Dragon

I wish we could ask this question and get a correct undisputable answer to it..rather than be left in the dark guessing.

Perhaps paradise is getting undisputable answers to our many questions someday.

That would be my personal wish...to live forever getting undisputable answers to my questions....